simple calculation of pipe diameter

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janvogel
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simple calculation of pipe diameter

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Hi dear society,
I need your help in very simple calculation, which unfortunately, I cannot perform properly.
I need to calculate a diameter of ideal (no friction) pipe, filled for 100% (so that hydraulic D = D of the pipe)
My capacity (Q) is 10 c.m./hr
Fluid is water at +50ºC
The Re numbers must be 2200 and 15000.
I have used the following equation:

..........Re*(μ/ρ)*A........Re*(μ/ρ)*(πD²/4)
D(m) = ---------------- = -----------------------;
...............Q......................Q

..............4*Q*1000
D(mm) = ----------------
.............Re*(μ/ρ)*π

But I get a very strange results:
= (4*1000*(10/3600))/(2300*(0,0005471/988,1)*3,14) = 2905 mm
= (4*1000*(10/3600))/(15000*(0,0005471/988,1)*3,14) = 426 mm

It means, that to receive a laminar water flow at 10 c.m./hr I need a pipe of almost 3m in diameter !
In the mean time I know for sure that the pipe DN65 will be more than enough.
So my calculation is completely incorrect !

Pls. anybody help me !
I need this calculation badly !
Thank you very much in advance !
admin
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Re: simple calculation of pipe diameter

Post by admin »

Don't change in second line numerator with denominator - just multiply first row with 1000 and you will get result in mm.
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janvogel
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Re: simple calculation of pipe diameter

Post by janvogel »

Dear Administrator,
Thank you very much for your help !

Unfortunately I do not understand how I can solve the equation in this form:


..........Re*(μ/ρ)*A......Re*(μ/ρ)*(πD²/4)......Re*(μ/ρ)*πD²
D(m) = ---------------- = ----------------------- = -------------------
................Q.....................Q.....................4*Q

At this point I have D on both sides of equation.
So, I cannot solve it.
To solve it, I have to simplify it. ?

.......Re*(μ/ρ)*π*D*D
D = -----------------------
..............4*Q

4*Q*D = Re*(μ/ρ)*π*D*D

4*Q = Re*(μ/ρ)*πD

...............4*Q
D(m) = -----------------
...........Re*(μ/ρ)*π

Where is my mistake ?

Probably I mess with measuring units ?
D - in meters
Q - in cub.m./second, in my case 10 cub.m./hr = 10/3600
μ – in Pa•s, for water at +50⁰C = 0,0005471
ρ – in kg/m³, for water at +50⁰C = 988,1

Is this correct ?

Thank you very much in advance ! :)
admin
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Re: simple calculation of pipe diameter

Post by admin »

Well, just checked your results and they are correct.

Now as you expect to have laminar flow with DN65 pipe, it is just what theory says is not possible.
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dqdung
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Re: simple calculation of pipe diameter

Post by dqdung »

Dear administration
Now, i would like to have your help for solving this proplem folowing:
I have to calculate the diameter size of steam pipe: Knowing the flow (q) and pressure (p)
Please give me correct formula for this
Thanks you so much, i need your help asap
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Re: simple calculation of pipe diameter

Post by admin »

Here is the formula to calculate pipe diameter for predefined velocity:
http://www.pipeflowcalculations.com/pip ... locity.htm.

If you know volumetric flow rate [m3/h] - you can use first one, but most probably you will know mass flow rate [kg/h].
Anyway, you will need saturated steam density on the actual pressure - you have the table in calculators at:
http://www.pipeflowcalculations.com/flowrate/index.htm. under "steam" on the left.

If the steam is superheated, than other density will be.
It is suggested that steam velocity not exceeds 10 m/s, but you can choose even lower.

Tell me actual pressure and flow rate so I can more help you.
Pipe flow calculations - since 2000
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